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FOX
Jan 20, 2013 10:00pm EST
pushing back they've months on the budget in exchange for cooperation on the debt ceiling. republican senator roy blunt of missouri says president obama should study president lincoln. >> when hard things get done, they get done because a president decided he was going to do what was necessary to get them done and that means you got to realistically look at the world you live in and the washington you've been given by the american voters to work with. >> reporter: and that means a divided congress and another election season not far away. melanie alnwick, fox 5 news. >> let's bring in now fox 5 political analyst mark plotkin on this discussion about the inauguration and expand a little bit on some of the president's accomplishments and his challenges coming up his second term, mark. let's start with his accomplishments in the first four years. what would you say some of the biggest accomplishments the president made? >> you have to start with health insurance. that's when had he a democratic -- when he had a democratic house and senate. that was his chief legislative goal and he accomplished
PBS
Jan 21, 2013 3:00pm PST
wednesday on raising the national debt ceiling. republican leaders announced today the extension lets the government continue borrowing money until may 19. the current debt ceiling-- $16.4 trillion-- could be reached as early as mid-february. the house bill does not specify a new dollar amount. it does mandate that congress approve budgets, or lawmakers won't be paid. major league baseball lost two hall of famers over the weekend. st. louis cardinals great stan musial-- "stan the man"-- died saturday at his home just outside the city. he played 22 years, helping the cards win three world series titles in the 1940's. he was widely regarded as one of game's greatest hitters ever. stan musial was 92 years old. also saturday, former baltimore orioles manager earl weaver passed away, during a caribbean cruise. weaver won the world series in 1970, and took his teams to three others. along the way, he gained fame for his fiery, in-your-face confrontations with umpires. he was ejected from games 91 times over 17 seasons. earl weaver was 82 years old. >> brown: finally tonight, a closing refle
FOX Business
Jan 20, 2013 10:00pm EST
republicans finally unveil their new debt ceiling deal. we examine the good combat command ugly with americans for tax reform president gror norquist later. one ohio teacher said she has a crippling fear of being children, but is still being forced to work with them. she says it is discrimination. we have to ask our legal team about this outrageous case. for on the case next on "the willis report." ♪ ♪ gerri: almost exactly one year ago today in this program, in this segment we told you about the president hosting a white house event and a chilling viewers he's serious about tackling unemployment. that was his job council. a combination of academics, union reps command ceos. back in unemployment was eight and a half%. today it has fallen. it has fallen, but not far enough. and i would like to tell you that the jobs council is on the case tried to drive us to zero on employment, but the truth is it is not met in the year. the 26-member panel officially known as the president's council on jobs and competitiveness last convened on january 17th 2012. their mission expires at the end
FOX News
Jan 21, 2013 1:00pm PST
g.o.p. said they would go forward seeking this extension of the increase on the debt ceiling. the president insisted he would not negotiate the debt ceiling again. the republican response is to give themselves more time before raising it. the partisan posturing, the positioning, that will yield to partisanning battling anew. >>neil: thank you. now, something that is fascinating. four years ago and again here, they get out of the their cars, the president and the vice president, they wave to the crowd, keep in mind they are feet away from the reviewing stand. they get back in the car. then to the reviewing stand and i am sure there is logic and reason and it has to do with the timing of it all but they are feet away. i could touch them. he will take the rest of the way by car. that is the vice president and the president. they will soon be in the reviewing stand. the former chairman of ubs america, a very, very important influential financial player for the obamas and kitchen cabinet type advisors on all things business community. very good to see you. thank you for coming. >> i have not seen you since election night. good to be on. chuck schumer said today the senate w
NBC
Jan 21, 2013 12:00am PST
. he's going to have it on immigration and also on the debt ceiling. not sure he's going to have it on guns, but he's going to drive the really hard-line republicans crazy because he's going to be able to break off 40 or 50 of them for all these other things. chris: that seems to be true as much as the opposition is hotter and perhaps hardening out there on the right. it does seem that the center right and the center are in play and obama is making his move toward them successfully. >> their governing philosophy coming in is that the fever would break among the tea party folks, among the hard right, and also that just folks in the house would sort of move to the boehner philosophy, which is a governing philosophy. the sort of -- chris: in other words, you don't need a majority of the republicans to rule. >> you break the rule, which is what he's done on these big-ticket items. they have been meeting over these last couple of days to figure out wait forward. i think the president was smart to step into these debates early and often and frame them in ways that americans can understand. and you have house republicans trying to play catch-up. chris: let me
CSPAN
Jan 21, 2013 12:00pm EST
congress you are going to see on debt ceiling. the republicans in the house are talking about a short-term view of that. it certainly would avoid disaster coming up for the end of march. you will still have the issue of raising it for the long term. on the republican side there is no real appetite to do that without the reforms. same for gun-control. a lot of the agenda items that the president announced last week, the 23 executive actions you will see taken piece by piece. the easiest one to accomplish will be those that come forward the fastest, and the same for immigration reform. there is a lot that could be done and a comprehensive approach, but i think you will see that come down to the very bare minimum that both sides are able to agree on. >> let me follow up with a vote that will happen on wednesday. that will give another three months and the extension of the debt limit. weird is that position? why delay that for three months? where does that put them in march and april? >> this is an acknowledgement that they have lost the debt ceiling essentially as a leveraged tool
WHUT
Jan 21, 2013 7:00am EST
republicans, saying that they were holding the debt ceiling hostage. there was a threat implicitly from his speech writers that he would use this platform to again go-against republicans. >> would that not be rather unusual? is this not where he transcends the dogfight and becomes the dignified head of state? >> presidents have used it in the past to further their agendas. keep in mind that we have the state of the union speech, saving his harsher attacks for that speech, talking about his vision for the country for the next four years. >> do you think that that will be determined and preoccupied by domestic events? or do you think he will be looking to secure the legacy with a big gesture movement on middle east peace, for example? >> absolutely, the stereotype of second term presidents is that they will go for middle east peace. this president is no exception. he laid the groundwork for that with mohammed morsi a few weeks ago. every indication from the white house is that they will be trying to work on iran and the crisis brewing there. also the crises in syria and somalia. there are tons of places where they realize they have to look out words. >> what about these problems?
FOX Business
Jan 21, 2013 6:00pm EST
away in the fight resumes. this wednesday, the house votes on whether to raise the debt ceiling. this bill comes amid a change and strategy for house republicans who decided not to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip in the fight to cut spending the the vote including a provision requiring congress to approve budgets and withholding pay for lawmakers until that happens. urn the legislation, they suspend the debt ceiling through may 18th, and congress raises the by whatever debt was incurred at the time. i don't know how you do that. just expand the ceiling. just not going to pay the credit cards. we don't care. meanwhile, as the dead line approaches, there's a chance the tax refund could be at risk. joining me is the managing direct for wealth health financial planning. rich, great to have you on the show. here's the deal. so congress has enough money to go through february 15th, mid february, about the time everybody starts trying to get the tax refunds. they file taxes. now, i know you are against refunds, but do you think it's possible they delay refunds? >> i'm hopeful it's not. i think the reality is congress will do the right thing. po
FOX Business
Jan 21, 2013 11:00am EST
have gotten a hint on that when republicans said they would look at eight debt ceiling it ascension back ago, probably, three months. what do you make of that? don: they would be blamed, roundly, thoroughly if the country went into some kind of default. the strategy, as you have been reporting, has been to try to take this issue off the table and then fight the battle over spending cuts when you have a sequestration cuts scheduled to start march 1. the current resolution running the government also running out into her three months from now. as well as, the debt ceiling having to be raised yet again. republicans hope this is when they will be able to get the leverage to push spending cuts and entitlement reform. neil: you know, peter, what we look at -- how does that decide? there is a protocol. sitting in and around that i see ron emanuel sitting close to president clinton, how are those seats sold out? >> by protocol and tradition, all former presidents are invited, of course. both president bush, 41 and 43 the client to come. i believe president carter is not attending, but presi
FOX Business
Jan 21, 2013 1:00pm EST
extension of the debt ceiling. extending that three months republicans are asking that congress pass a budget to be taken political aim at the u.s. senate because in the u.s. senate they have not passed a budget in a few years. with that they get democrats on the record and the senate with a budget which is something that had been hoping to do politically. they don't have any spending cuts as part of this. another part of this is that congress will get paid if they don't pass a budget. is knows that argument. there will be having budget fights every few months. >> something to look for too. thank you. melissa: just attending the inauguration this morning. lori: that's right. let's bring in lou dobbs listen to that speech this morning. >> the leader of this country for the previous four years. the welcome tone in many respects. in other respects it was confusing and confounding. suggesting that somehow -- he talked about one thing in particular, talking about self executing troops. we don't have any of those. there were moments where he seemed to be almost perfunctory in his delivery. t
CNBC
Jan 21, 2013 11:00am EST
so. if what the republicans are talking about is let's have this debt ceiling skirmish every quarter, every three months, nobody is going to like that, especially the markets, and for very good reason. if what they're say something we're not going to play debt ceiling leverage anymore, which has obviously been the president's position, that's good. my feeling is it's probably the latter. i think there are enough kind of economic grown-ups in the room to really control the folks who have threatened to use that kind of leverage. >> but the senate has not had a budget resolution pass through the senate in, what is it, four years now? >> april, 2009. >> that feels to me pretty shameful frankly. i don't know the politics and i'm not exactly sure why that's the case, but isn't that a critical step in bridging the gap and making progress on these issues where you can not go to these sort of extra legal things like using the debt ceiling as leverage, but you can use the process as it is intended to be used. >> i agree, and it's an interesting quid pro quo for the republicans to agree to the
FOX
Jan 21, 2013 2:00am PST
of potentially good political outcome for republicans, out of backing down on the debt ceiling which is that all of the talk about how crazy that position was and how dangerous it was, has in a weird way, made -- if they go forward and do the straightforward government shut down over the cr, for example -- >> the continuing resolution. >> right, less scary, less like a big deal and less, you know, nuclear than what was being discussed before and in a way they've kind of given themselves room to go bigger on some of these things than maybe they would have had before. >> chris: and, one thing i would say is there is a new realization by the house leadership and the house ment n mentione mentioned. mentioned... coming up, after the break, tougher gun control laws, will congress pass the president's new plan? >> chris: still to come, our power player of the week. >> when word gets out the president is coming to worship. >> chris: st. john's has been linked to presidents for almost two centuries. >> you almost feel like the church will tilt over on one side because there are so many peopl
NBC
Jan 21, 2013 7:00am EST
decided to pull back from threatening to push us over the cliff on the debt ceiling. >> if you do talk to republicans, they'll tell you this is a president, very confident from his re-election. some might use the word cocky, and that he has become more partisan and more hard nosed. would you agree with that sae assessment? >> and is it by necessity or choice? >> no, i think he's become -- he's practical. and if the other side is going to take a position that they're going to oppose you on every initiative, you have to seek national support. in a democracy, people push policy forward not the politicians and so that's a lesson that he has drawn from the first term. that said, as far as i can -- as i know, and as i know him, his door is always open to people who are willing to work together to solve problems and one hopes in the next four years there will be a spirit of cooperation. understand we're never going to agree on anything. that's why we have two parties. in order to move the country forward we have to move together. >> david axelrod, always good to see you. >> good to see you, savannah. >> i know you'l
MSNBC
Jan 21, 2013 4:00am EST
republicans have taken a step back on this debt ceiling standoff. should it be raised. this is how "the new york times" described it over the weekend. i'll put it up on the screen and have you react to it. backing down from the hardline stance, house republicans said friday they would agree to lift the limit for three months with the requirement that both chambers of congress pass a budget in that time to clear the way for negotiations on long-term deficit reduction, to add muscle to the efforts to bring democrats to the table, they would include a provision in the debt ceiling legislation saying that lawmakers will not be paid if they do not pass a budget blueprint. was it right to step back from challenging the president over raising the debt ceiling? >> well, i think the house proposal is a step in the right direction. no doubt the senate hasn't done it's job. it's been nearly four years since it's passed a budget. but it doesn't go nearly far enough. we have a crisis. i just got back last week from afghanistan. and i had multiple servicemen and women clasp me on the arm and say, please
MSNBC
Jan 21, 2013 2:00am EST
table? >> i support the mcconnell proposal. let us raise the debt ceiling. no strings attached. and if the president can raise it as he should be able to and if congress wants to reject it 2/3. the mcconnell proposal is a good republican proposal. i hope you support it. that's the way to go. >> a bill that says regardless of what happens with the debt ceiling, the united states will never default on the debt, would you support that or not? >> i support the concept. i'd have to look at the bill. the best way to do that is the mcconnell act. >> we may have just made news. >>> last week, general colin powell was here worried about a dark vein of intolerance in republican quarters. you are part of a stream of new faces in the republican party, minority faces and voices in the party that seem to stand against that. how did you respond to it? >> well, i saw that interview. i respect general powell a great deal. i was disappointed with those comments. i think he was buying into some of the partisan attacks. if you look at this last election, for example, i think the most racially divisive comment of the entire election was joe biden's comment where he said if the republicans win, they are, quote, going to put y'all back in chains. th
CNN
Jan 20, 2013 10:00pm PST
to have some republicans come with me. he was tough on the debt ceiling. he was tough on the fiscal showdown. when he got tough, boehner had to let some republicans go his way. i think he want unity. the path is being tough and being clear about what he wants to get done bp. >> if you look at lift, second terms have not worked out how most presidents think they will work out. something happens. president bush, the financial crisis. president clinton, the impeachment. >> this guy is awesome. >> stuff happens. clean it up. it's family show. george w. bush never mentioned terrorism. that was the topic that dominated his term. i re-eisenhower's second inaugur inaugural. the most important thing was to send troops into little rock. i think most of these presidents have no idea what they're about to encounter. >> outside events end up shaping the legacy and how they respond. the president's maximum political power and validation is right now in this moment and in the next year. the question is does he strike while the iron is hot an does he take to the tendency which will be to appeal to the democratic pass and try to ram something through or do something
ABC
Jan 20, 2013 11:35pm EST
documents and there are big fiscal fights coming up with the debt ceiling and running the government that will occupy his time. >> if you were a betting man what would he have success with/ >> immigration is the biggest one and republicans may support that. everything he talked about, i don't think in a year he'd pass it all. >> the innaaguration of 2013 -- they are making plans to make it go more smoothly and how the badnsnds are preparing. >> what a treat we had today lower sixties. big changes tomorrow. wait until you feel the difference. ♪ ♪ aww man. [ male announcer ] returns are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ ♪ >> tomorrow will see changes learned from 2008. the metro will allow drivers to pay for parking on their way out of the lots after people were waiting in line to park and spilled out on the interstates. but that is far from the only change. >> when president obama is sworn in gene a will be one of the people in the audience. she is getting prepared. >> that morning will start about 4:00 am. just -- to make sure that we get down he
FOX News
Jan 20, 2013 6:00pm PST
three months they will allow the debt ceiling to be hiked and try to attach some spending cuts or at least say we need to be engaged in negotiations for further increase in debt hike. i think that was a recession for republicans in reality they were losing this argue uchlt. it reengineers to the point that 60 percent of americans think you have to have spending cuts right now. >> you listen to the president's senior advisor today he was talking again about a balanced approach saying whatever deal on the debt ceiling has to have tax loopholes closed. speaker boehner brought the 800 billion in loop whole closures in the beginning of the fiscal cliff negotiation that should be a part of this deal. despite the fact that the president wanted rate increase on the fiscal deal and that's all they want. >> you can see the democrats and white house believe they have the argument in their back pocket. they offered once they can call on it again if they are going to concede on any spending cuts. none have been discussed at least in the short term are going to solve the problem. the only way you solve the problem is by structural entitlement reform. you have to change the trajectory. it is not 50 billion from defense spendin
CBS
Jan 21, 2013 10:00am EST
republican party. that's why i think you saw them retreat from the plan to push this debt ceiling issue immediately upon returning to work. so i think that there's a prospect for getting some things done. certainly on issues like immigration reform. there's a powerful impetus for there to be progress. i think we can make some. >> david, thank you very much. you're going to be leaving the president's side and starting an institute of politics at the university of chicago and we wish you all the luck in the world. >> you guys, i need you out there. >> nancy cordis is there as a number of the dignitaries begin to take their seats. what are you seeing? >> scott, there are 1,600 seats that have been set up on the west front terrace of the capitol. people who will be surrounding the president as he takes the oath of office. we are still awaiting the announcement of the dignitaries who will come out in groups. first, the nation's diplomatic core, the governor, then the cabinet, the joint chief of staff, and supreme court. and two former presidents, bill clinton and president carter who will bo
CBS
Jan 21, 2013 7:00am PST
with the debt ceiling a few days ago. that's good. in the last week or so we have seen some changes on the republican side on immigration. a more -- more of an understanding for the need for an immigration policy. the country is becoming more and more diverse and minority. this is good. only in the united states could we handle this kind of diversity and we should be proud of it and we should educate the young people and give those who are not here under legal status an opportunity to gain some kind of legal status. that's what the legal immigration should be all about. and also, climate and gun control and all the other things that are before him. >> how did he get washington off the dime here? what's the first thing? >> one of the things that has gotten so much attention, he doesn't get along with come, doesn't spend enough time with them. i know he's thinking about that. i hope he does reach out more than he has in the first four years and i hope congress is ready to reciprocate. they can't defeat him in the election anymore. today is the day we come together as a nation and dedicate ourselves to doing
PBS
Jan 20, 2013 6:00pm PST
the other guy's debt ceiling, but there was always the understanding that we would provide the votes in the final analysis. the president's party did that. right now, what you have is a situation where the republican party is reduced to its lowest standing in the history of "the wall street journal" poll. the only thing that is worse is john boehner. 18% favorable. this is not a formidable partner. >> over the weekend, "politico" spoke to many advisers and said house republicans and party leaders appear willing to shut down government. we might need to do that four- member management purposes so that they can have an end game and show their constituents they are fighting. get it out of the system? this is not a gastrointestinal problem, this is the government. >> i would suggest therapy and do not shed down the government. i would give it to them for free. the republicans have had a pretty unhappy experience with brinksmanship. years theye gingrich shut down the government and they got shellacked. they tried to force the issue using the debt ceiling in 2011, using the fiscal cliff in january. i am as gung-ho as any of them to force obama into cutting spending. but it failed, and the reason is, you canno
FOX
Jan 21, 2013 8:00am PST
. we know we will deal with this year. debt ceiling, entitlement reform, et cetera, et cetera. right and left, republicans and democrats are diametrically opposed with their orthodoxy. democrats more moderate with republicans on certain things. republicans are more send activity that work with democrats. in the wake of the 2012 election as we look forward what is happening with the president's second term there are historical realities. the country is system of two parties and they compete hard. they compete hard for their agendas and it is not going to be an easy year. a second term is difficult one. the first year of four is really the best, some say only opportunity to pass legislation effectively. after the second year of a second term, on comes the midterm, 2014 will be a very, very important time which will determine by who is ted anated aho wi, what the republican and democratic presidential candidates look like in the back of president obama's second term and who his successor will be. something that has not happened in many years, not at all inconceivable. everyone recognizes in this city and across
CNN
Jan 21, 2013 4:00am EST
tough on the debt ceiling. he was tough on the fiscal showdown. when he got tough, finally boehner had to let republicans go his way. i think he wants unity, but the path to unity is not kumbaya, it's being tough and being clear about what he wants to get done for the country. >> second terms have not worked out how most presidents think they're going to work out. something happens, president bush the financial crisis, president clinton the impeachment. nixon, reagan, iran contra. paul, another thing you said, the inaugural is another blueprint etched in sand? >> this guy's awesome. >> the great philosopher who the first to say, stuff happens. >> he cleaned it up. it's a family show. >> president bush, who ari served, president bush, in his first inaugural never mentioned terrorism. that was the topic that dominated his term. i reread eisenhower's inaugural, he gave a stirring speech about the cold war and confronting communism. probably the most important thing he did in his second term is send troops into little rock. not into berlin, but little rock to enforce desegregation. he signed the first civil rig
FOX News
Jan 21, 2013 12:00pm PST
in the house of representatives, the republicans want there to an votes on the debt ceiling and delaying or expanding the debt ceiling and giving lip to 9 debt ceil for another two or flee months. we will be back in the thick of things in a few minutes but today we catch our breath. >>shepard: a lot of breath capping to be done. john bussey live with us from the "wall street journal" and steve, over to you, steve. well, steve is otherwise engaged i am now told. back to evan, presidential historian and live with us from new york, the president just got back into the limousine and will come to the reviewing stand behind us. i guess this is an important day for us to remember who it is we are and what we espouse to be and send a message to the world but more than anything, isn't this good for the kids on martin luther king jr. day to have the african-american president coming for his second inauguration? there is hope for a lot of people wrapped up in this man who may not have had hope before. >> there is hope for a lot of people wrapped up in this man. the constitution talked abou
FOX News
Jan 21, 2013 1:00am EST
controlli -- debt ceiling and what americans describe as out of control spending. what do key republicans take with the attitude toward congress at this point? >> to get real solutions president obama needs to understand what will pass in the republican led house. it will also be acceptable to him. lawmakers tend to be unhappy when the president goes around them. they called on mr. obama to do better. >> he speaks in general terms likes the executive order approach a whole lot better than the legislative approach. you can't get all that foreign with executive order. you have to legislate and you have to legislate realistically. you have to realize you don't control the entire congress. >> republicans don't like that the president is converting his campaign apparatus into a purpose that helped him in his second term. they are thinking that is probably not a good sign in working in a bipartisan fashion. >> one area where they do not agree at all is over the budget. it>> it has been a source of problems when they work on critical issues and budget is a key component. the senate will do it's job o
FOX
Jan 21, 2013 7:00am EST
vice president put in charge with republicans on the debt ceiling and brought in most recently for these 24 proposals that have been put forward on the gun control. and the vice president brokered that last minute deal being avoided at the end of the year. when you look at the obama presidency and four years from now when this history is going to be written, vice president joe biden is going to fill a roll in that history that is particular to him and larger than any other vice president we have seen before. really reinvented the vice president before that, they did not have all that much to do besides check on the health of the president. but really, the modern era now we've seen this change from administration to administration and clearly vice president joe biden at this point has demonstrated the height of that, the political confident and advisor and foot soldier with house republicans here who have said they have major problems with a lot of the things this administration is laying out. >> tom is live right there front row seat for the swearing in ceremony at the capitol. tha
MSNBC
Jan 21, 2013 3:00am PST
debt ceiling. he broke the republicans's arms on that. >> still got the votes. >> sandy relief who will disagree on that? >> a lot of of people. remember how chris christie was screaming? >> screaming at -- >> house republicans. >> right. >> what happens is up until now you had something called the hastert rule in the house. republicans stood together. that has been demolished in the last month. it's going to continue to be demolished when votes on immigration comes up and solving the sequestration money comes up and also on the budget. the real test for the president is whether he is going to go up against his own caucus to do things on medicare social security and a few other issues. >> we are looking at the president on a motorcade going down pennsylvania avenue. every time i look at the inaugural route, i can't help but go back to january 20th 1977 and jimmy carter breaking precedent and stepping out of the car and shaking hands with the american people. >> he walked the whole route. >> his four years started out well and ended batly. you have gone back and taken a look at how
FOX Business
Jan 21, 2013 5:00pm EST
cliff where the edge of the debt ceiling. that is part of it. the democrats feel they have the political advantage. i think what we saw today was the president giving and not to republicans say we have to do something to rein in the deficit but quickly coming back and saying, we are not plan to undermine such as security, medicare, medicaid. politically he is in an advantageous posture with regard to the major entitlement programs. melissa: that all sounds true. the problem is the origin of all of this debt are those entitlement programs. if we don't get them under control we are looking at the national debt when the president took office. it is now 16. that is the 60 percent increase over that time frame. i mean, without tackling those entitlements, i don't know how you get that crazy balloon under control. >> in the president's continues to have an interest in spending, taxing, and that think the reason they have the momentum is that the gop for all intents and purposes has given up the moral high ground. the biggest momentum that the republicans had was for the tea party. cutting spending was seen as patriotic. under this president cutting spending is seen as obstructioni
CNBC
Jan 21, 2013 4:00am EST
like for the next four years and how does it debt ceiling fit into that? >> i don't think republicans have any clear idea whatsoever of who or what ideas they'll be forward. there will a lot of soul searching going on. their idea is to find a sannish republican. that's why there's a lot of focus on ted cruz for 2016, a member of the senate. and i think they will get there eventually. but i think the real thing for investors is you can try ask play the macro picture, but don't do it without paying attention to the micropicture. the micropicture is good in the u.s. >> but you know what's interesting, in talking about the gop strategy, it sounds like they think they can solve their ills by finding the right presidential candidate. >> i agree. >> is that papering over the long wrong? >> in the end, it comes down to a place where the u.s. has become a place where more people are beneficiaries of state than not. therefore, this old american idea that, you know, the freedom of the individual against the state has to win isn't playing with the general public. most americans agree you can't be righ
NBC
Jan 21, 2013 12:30am PST
. right now they're talking about perhaps an increase in the debt ceiling that lasts for a couple of months, that is offering that to the president. frankly, and russ say agree with me here, i don't think markets would react to -- very approvingly to basically just another lurch from crisis to crisis. it wasn't too long ago that, maria, you and i were sitting in these chairs talking about the fiscal cliff. now the debt ceiling. do you want to have this discussion two months from now? >> i believe everybody believes this debt ceiling will be extended. you know these guys well. you worked right there with vice president biden. let me get your take on this. if we keep fighting about spending cuts and reining in the spending, how come it's always about putting the gloves on and fighting? we're not going to do this, we're not going to do that. how come we haven't seen any proposals for spending cuts? are we going to see that, you think? >> i do think so. i mean, i think that we have to go through this unfortunately, at least recent history suggests we have to go through this crisis mental
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Jan 20, 2013 8:30pm EST
obama almost like a parliamentary party was not rewarded. taking the debt ceiling hostage was not rewarded, calling the obama health care plan -- which was their own only a few years earlier -- socialism was not reward withed. rewarded. that means they have to begin to rethink themselves and, importantly, democrats will not automatically embrace the same tactics in opposition. so i think that was the important change that creates a new dynamic not that's going to solve our problems. there's going to be no sitting around the campfire in washington making nice to one another. but the possibility now exists for a real effort and a successful effort to deal with our most pressing problems. >> host: two familiar washington faces, thomas mann and norm ornstein. "it's even worse than it looks." this is booktv on c-span2. >> is there a nonfiction author or book you'd like to see featured on booktv? send us an e-mail at booktv@c-span.org or tweet us at twitter.com/booktv. >> host: and now joining us again on booktv is senator rand paul. his second book, "government bullies." senator, who a
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